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#13087 libfilezilla-0.47 hardcodes -ldl Bug report normal libfilezilla fixed
Description

In some Unixes, like Linux, dlopen() and friends are provided by libdl. In others, like most BSDs and I think macOS, dlopen() is part of libc and there is no libdl.

See the man pages for FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD - I wanted to include links but then SpamBayes blocked the report as spam.

libfilezilla-0.47 wants to link against libdl. Please make it check first if the library exists. Thank you!

#13088 Client 3.67.0.0 unable to uninstall Bug report normal FileZilla Client worksforme
Description

Not able to uninstall after upgraded to latest version Error says that I don’t have sufficient access to remove FileZilla (I am local administrator) Getting same error on both windows 10 and 11 Never had any issues with earlier versions of FileZilla

Installer was downloaded from https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?platform=win64

#13104 FileZilla Server Settings window is excessively large on Windows 11 with an ultrawide display and cannot be resized smaller Bug report normal FileZilla Server fixed
Description

## Background:

I was helping out a friend with his localhost FileZilla Server install remotely over Splashtop; I noticed the Server Settings window was not only excessively large but also could not be resized any smaller.

## Technical details:

  • FileZilla Server 1.8.2
  • Windows 11 Pro 23H2
  • Desktop: 1x 3840x1080px display (at 96dpi) and 1x 1366x768px (also at 96dpi).

## Repro steps:

  1. Use an ultrawide monitor.
  2. Open the FileZilla Administration interface
  3. Go Main Menu > Server > Configure
  4. Observe the Settings window is proportionally-sized to fill maybe 50-66% of the screen, but it cannot be sized any smaller and has excessive amounts of unused space and also obscures other running programs (and you can resize it even bigger for some reason).

## Expected behaviour:

  • I expected the Settings window to have a compact initial size - or I expect the Settings window to have the current wide initial size on this screen but to also allow me to resize it smaller.
#13119 Filezilla Pro is blocked by Google Drive Bug report normal Other fixed
Description

Hello ! Today, I noticed that FileZilla Pro cannot connect to Google Drive because Google's services have blocked access to the FileZilla Pro application, deeming it unsafe. This problem has been encountered not only by me but also by my friends, who are also active users of FileZilla Pro.

Could you please tell me if an update is planned that will fix this issue?

#13126 Could Not Connect To Server Bug report normal FileZilla Client invalid
Description

Hello and good morning. I have been using FileZilla now for almost 2 years to download reports for balancing. As of Friday July 19th, i keep getting the error message "could not connect to server". We are using a hard connection, nothing has changed on our end. I did have my core processor make sure the firewall was not the issue. We cannot figure it out.

#13129 Renaming a file or changing an extention reverts to original until you manually refresh the directory listing. Bug report normal FileZilla Client fixed
Description

I started having this issue a couple of updates ago. I found a bug report from 6 years ago with the same problem bug report 11697 that was listed as being fixed with a future update. I found the same problem report a little over a month ago on version 3.67.0 on bug report 13101 indicating it would be fixed with the next update. I'm using version 3.67.1 and the issue remains.

#13133 FileZilla Client 3.67.1 - Renaming a local file doesn't refresh the list Bug report normal FileZilla Client fixed
Description

Hi, thanks you so much for this great software (i use it since 18 years :)

So, when i rename a local file (in the local panel) it doesn't refresh the list after the renaming (but it works). The same action in the remote panel works perfectly. Here's my about popup content:

Version: 3.67.1

Build information:

Compiled for: x86_64-w64-mingw32 Compiled on: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Build date: 2024-07-10 Compiled with: x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc (GCC) 12-win32 Compiler flags: -O2 -g -Wall -Wextra -Wno-deprecated-copy -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -Wno-cast-function-type

Linked against:

wxWidgets: 3.2.5 SQLite: 3.39.4 GnuTLS: 3.8.4

Operating system:

Name: Windows 11 (build 22631), 64-bit edition Version: 10.0 Platform: 64-bit system CPU features: sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 sse4.1 sse4.2 avx avx2 aes pclmulqdq rdrnd bmi bmi2 adx lm Settings dir: C:\Users\mr21\AppData\Roaming\FileZilla\

#13135 Incorrect error message "Invalid username given" when invalid host entered in Site Manager Bug report normal FileZilla Client rejected
Description

When entering a site in Site Manager, if an invalid Host is provided, when attempting to click Connect or OK, the error message says "Invalid username given". To be clear, the error checking is fine, it is the error message that is incorrect.

Steps to reproduce:

  • Open site manager
  • Add new site
  • Enter in any User
  • Enter in any Password
  • Enter a Host name - include a @ at the *start* of your Host name
  • Click OK or Connect

Platform: Windows x64

[Discovered when being a lazy copy/paster]

#13149 Could not connect to server Bug report normal FileZilla Server rejected
Description

We suddenly lost connection to the server. We are unable to connect to sftp server. Here is what prints when trying to connect.

Status: Connecting to sftp.sageintacctmpp.com... Response: fzSftp started, protocol_version=11 Command: open "ehe@…" 22 Error: Connection timed out after 20 seconds of inactivity Error: Could not connect to server Status: Waiting to retry... Status: Connecting to sftp.sageintacctmpp.com... Response: fzSftp started, protocol_version=11 Command: open "ehe@…" 22 Error: Connection timed out after 20 seconds of inactivity Error: Could not connect to server

Could this be an IP/white list issue?

#13155 Connection Timeout Issue with FTP Server Bug report normal FileZilla Client rejected
Description

I am experiencing an issue while trying to connect to the FTP server at ftptms.acquiremedia.com. Interestingly, my colleagues are able to connect without any issues, but another client is also encountering the same problem. Below are the latest details of my connection attempts:

  1. Connection Attempt:
  • Time: 11:10:43
  • Status: Resolving address of ftptms.acquiremedia.com
  • Connecting to: 34.66.114.227:21
  • Status: Connection established, waiting for welcome message.
  • Warning: Insecure server, it does not support FTP over TLS.
  1. User Authentication:
  • Command: USER universal
  • Response: 331 Please specify the password.
  • Command: PASS (password hidden for security)
  1. Connection Timeout:
  • Error: Connection timed out after 20 seconds of inactivity.
  • Error: Could not connect to server.
  • Status: Waiting to retry...
  1. Second Connection Attempt:
  • Status: Resolving address of ftptms.acquiremedia.com
  • Connecting to: 34.66.114.227:21
  • Status: Connection established, waiting for welcome message.
  • Response: 220 (vsFTPd 3.0.2)
  • Command: AUTH TLS
  • Response: 530 Please login with USER and PASS.
  • Command: AUTH SSL
  • Response: 530 Please login with USER and PASS.
  • Warning: Insecure server, it does not support FTP over TLS.
  1. Re-attempt User Authentication:
  • Command: USER universal
  • Response: 331 Please specify the password.
  • Command: PASS
  • Error: Connection timed out after 20 seconds of inactivity.
  • Error: Could not connect to server.

Despite my colleagues being able to connect successfully, I continue to face this timeout issue. Additionally, the fact that another client is experiencing the same problem raises concerns about a possible underlying issue.

Could you please advise on how I can resolve this matter? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

#13156 Version 3.67.1 Bug report normal FileZilla Client rejected
Description

FileZilla version 3.67.1 has a bug in Windows 7. Explorer on the hard drive does not work. I installed an older version (3.43) and it's OK.

#13159 URL for source tarball no longer works Bug report normal FileZilla Client wontfix
Description

Recently the URL for downloading the source tarball stopped working (for example https://download.filezilla-project.org/client/FileZilla_3.67.1_src.tar.xz)

The current URLs on the website seem to be dynamic and expire after some time.

Is there a stable download URL somewhere?

thanks

#13161 [macOS] FileZilla FTP upload doesn't work with network extensions NETransparentProxyProvider provider Bug report normal FileZilla Client rejected
Description

In the FTP file uploading (Passive mode), we observed that FileZilla call shutdown(SHUT_WR) to half-close the TCP sending when the file is sent completely. If there is NETransparentProxyProvider provider is running on the macOS and taking over the FTP Data connection, it won't be able to get the closing notification from the macOS network extension framework. However, if an app calls close() API, the macOS network extension framework will notify the provider with zero length data. We found most of other FTP clients (like inetutils-ftp-command-tool, cyberduck, etc), they are all calling close() which has no problem to work with NETransparentProxyProvider provider. I reported the bug want to know if FileZilla has plan to fix it? If so, is there a timeline?

#13165 FileZilla server 1.9.2 anonymous access bug Bug report normal FileZilla Server rejected
Description

I have a windows 11 pro 23H2 and a FileZilla server 1.9.2 installed

I set config: User: anonymous User is enabled Do not require authentication

Then i trying to connect with anonymous to my server i see next:

server log: <Date/Time> Info [Type] Message <04.10.2024 11:35:48> FTP Session 8 127.0.0.1 [Trace] Session 0x20831d00290 with ID 8 destroyed. <04.10.2024 11:35:53> FTP Session 9 127.0.0.1 [Trace] Session 0x20831cfe280 with ID 9 created. <04.10.2024 11:35:53> FTP Session 9 127.0.0.1 [Response] 220-FileZilla Server 1.9.2 <04.10.2024 11:35:53> FTP Session 9 127.0.0.1 [Response] 220 Please visit https://filezilla-project.org/ <04.10.2024 11:35:53> FTP Session 9 127.0.0.1 [Command] USER anonymous <04.10.2024 11:35:53> FTP Session 9 127.0.0.1 [Response] 503 Use AUTH first. <04.10.2024 11:35:53> FTP Server [Status] Session 9 ended gracefully. <04.10.2024 11:35:53> FTP Session 9 127.0.0.1 [Trace] Session 0x20831cfe280 with ID 9 destroyed.

at filezila client log: 220-FileZilla Server 1.9.2 Please visit https://filezilla-project.org/ Regular FTP is not secure. Please switch to FTP over TLS. Command: USER anonymous Answer: 503 Use AUTH first. Error: Unable to connect to server

The same configuration on FileZilla server 1.8.2 with user anonymous -- work perfectly.

#13167 Filezilla -Virus Detected on Download Bug report normal FileZilla Client rejected
Description

I am trying to install Filezilla but I keep getting the message that Virus is detected.

I have tried it from several different areas. My co-worker is also having the same experience.

https://filezilla-project.org/download.php?type=client This url displays the following on the screen - SCREEN Download FileZilla Client for Windows (64bit x86) The latest stable version of FileZilla Client is 3.67.1

Please select the file appropriate for your platform below.

Windows (64bit x86) Operating system logo Download FileZilla Client (This is a green button on the screen)

This installer may include bundled offers. Check below for more options.

The 64bit versions of Windows 8.1, 10 and 11 are supported.

More download options Other platforms: Windows (32bit x86)macOS (Intel)macOS (Apple Silicon)Linux (64bit x86)Linux (32bit x86)

Not what you are looking for?

Show additional download options End Screen

In my downloads, it says FileZilla_3.67.1_win64_sponsored2-setup.exe Virus Detected

Please let me know if this is something you are going to fix. Thanks!

#13168 128GB MicroSD Card not accessible Bug report normal FileZilla Client rejected
Description

I switched my cell phone from a 64GB MicroSD card to a 128GB MicroSD card. Ever since I switched I am unable to use FileZilla to access the MicroSD card. I searched your website and can't find anything on MicroSD cards. Is this a bug or a limitation of FileZilla?

#13172 Cancelar upload de arquivo Bug report normal FileZilla Client invalid
Description

Ao cancelar um upload de arquivo, a ação fica registrada na aba de Transferências bem sucedidas e sobe o pop-up de transferência bem sucedida quando na verdade o arquivo nem foi enviado. Entendo que se a ação de transferência foi cancelada e não foi executada, não deveria ser considerada bem sucedida.

#13174 Although it is not in the specification, accept LIST *.* (and LIST -a) as an option Feature request normal FileZilla Server rejected
Description

Hi, My ftp client is an industrial plastic injection press using an old standard protocole called EuropMap63 that unfortunately uses "LIST *.*". I have no hope to the see protocole and the zillion of machines updated.

I have read the FAQ, forum's discussions, and past tickets : this is not a new subject. I understand your point about specifications.

So far my options are : use the 0.9.6 release (not a good idea) or use another server (would make me sad).

I just wonder how complex it would be to add an option like "accept non standard LIST commands" or equivalent. This would make it clear that this is no good ftp, but could allow many of us facing the same issue to keep using Filezilla. The option could for example treat all "LIST whatever" calls as "LIST" even for files & directories.

#13182 Issue to update Filezilla Client Bug report normal FileZilla Client rejected
Description

Dear Support,

We use NinjaOne for the patching management. We use your client FileZilla and we have set up a rule to update your software when there is an update available. We have approximately +100 computers with this software and the update failed...'access denied'

One question, did you ban/blacklist some public IP ? Did you see something with this : 81.92.239.239

Thank for your help. Kind regards, Thomas

#13183 FileZilla Pro: Feature request - Hetzner Object Storage S3 Feature request normal FileZilla Client worksforme
Description

Greetings,

Lately, I've successfully registered and am using Hetzner Object Storage which is compatible with S3 via Hetzner API.

Also using FileZilla Pro FTP for Windows.

Source articles from Hetzner:

Wonder if it is possible to implement Hetzner API and get this Hetzner Object Storage as an option in dropdown select, in soon future for FileZilla Pro?

Thank you in advance

Image:

Add Hetzner object storage option

#13190 Upload stops at 47% Bug report normal FileZilla Client fixed
Description

Dear supporter Team,

I have attempted to upload the file "20-48656_R_2.fastq.gz" on my folder multiple times, but the upload stops at 47%. Despite trying to save the file in a different folder and re-uploading, I continue to experience the same issue. The file size is 2.73GB.

Error resolved.

THANK YOU.

#13192 Invalid hostname - components cannot be all number Bug report normal FileZilla Server fixed
Description

Hello, FileZilla refuses hostnames like ftp.1234.com when generating certificates (self signed or let's encrypt). An error is shown

Invalid hostname 'ftp.1234.com'.
Components of host names cannot be all numbers.

According to RFC1123 these hostnames are valid, and shouldn't be blocked for certificate generation.

#13196 Add faster handling for large numbers of files Feature request normal FileZilla Client rejected
Description

Filezilla uses only core ftp/sftp commands, which requires it to manipulate files one at a time, incurring network overhead each time. This can result in it taking hours to delete or transfer a few thousand small files. This delay is not necessary; sshing into the remote machine and using rm -r for deletions, or zipping the files before transfer, could increase execution speed by multiple orders of magnitude.

#13199 Fails to connect to s3.wasabisys.com with implicit TLS Bug report normal FileZilla Client rejected
Description

What I did:

  • Launch FileZilla
  • In the Quickconnect bar, enter host: s3.wasabisys.com, username: foo, password: bar, port: 990
  • Hit the Quickconnect button

What I expected:

  • An error about incorrect user/pass

What occurred:

  • "Error: Received TLS alert from the server: No supported application protocol could be negotiated (120)"
  • Full level-3 debug log will be attached

I am able to connect properly with other FTPS clients, such as lftp and rclone, so this feels like a FileZilla problem. Any user/pass will reproduce this error, you don't have to be subscribed to Wasabi to see the TLS failure.

Details:

  • I am running the latest FileZilla 3.68.1 for x86_64 Linux, downloaded directly from the FileZilla website.
  • I am running Ubuntu Linux 24.04.1
  • I have searched for similar issues
  • I have successfully run the Network configuration wizard, with no errors
  • I am happy to provide further information, eg: Wireshark logs, if that would be helpful
#13208 App is not responding on Mac Bug report normal FileZilla Client fixed
Description

When I try to open the app I get a message 'FileZilla is not responding' and I have to Force Quit. I tried deleting the app and downloading the latest version but get the same problem. I was trying to access the app because up to now all my transfers were of files in my documents folder on the Mac. However all these files are now in the cloud and not on the Mac and I wanted to see how to manage transfers in the new circumstances. I don't know if relocating the files is relevant or the problem with FileZilla is just coincidence. I last used FileZilla succesfully on Jan 1st.

#13212 Cannot Access MicroSD card on cell phone Bug report normal FileZilla Client duplicate
Description

I have been using FileZille Pro for quite some time now. I connect to my cell phone. I can access the phones memory just fine. But I recently moved from a 64GB to a 128GB MicroSD card. Since then I can no longer access the MicroSD card from FileZilla, but I can still access the phones memory. I've searched your website and only found an old request of mine. I was sent a link that mentioned problems accessing an FTP site. But I can access the phone just fine, its just the 128GB MicroSD card that FileZilla can no longer access. Is this a limitation of FileZilla?

#13215 Setting causing error when trying to save Bug report normal FileZilla Client worksforme
Description

Trying to save settings always causes error. See attached file

#13228 Menu icons appear off in resolution or scaling Bug report normal FileZilla Client wontfix
Description

For quite the past few versions my menu icons have been off. Started with an upgrade about 2 years ago, never self corrected through every other version update.

/Users/sergioq/Desktop/Screenshot 2025-03-11 at 12.55.35 PM.png

#1 Can't set firewall settings Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

In the Firewall settings dialogue for FileZilla v1.0, I can't put in the firewall host, port, username or password, even though I set a firewall type other than "None". This dialogue works properly in FileZilla beta 2.2

#2 Loader error when starting Filezilla Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

When I try to start Filezilla 1.0 or 1.1, I get an error message: LOADER ERROR: The ordinal 6929 could not be located in the dynamic link library MFC42.DLL. This is on a W95 machine.

Version 1.0 on a W98 machine works fine.

#4 Wrong word in Options Tim Kosse Bug report low Unknown
Description

My version of FileZilla ( V. 1.0 final)has a word wrong in the options menu, (under Settings) click on settings and look at the buttons on the bottom. (OK) and (cancel) The word Cancel appears to be in German instead of English. Thanks Every thing else is GREAT!!

Seán

#5 Assert during resize. Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

Just bringing this to your attention. In the debug build of FileZilla 1.1 I get an assert during the resize of the application. This occurs when the ftp view pane has the focus. The assert comes in a call to GetActivePane. It's not a big deal because it doesn't really break anything, and is ignored in the release build, but I thought I would bring it to your attention if you didn't already know.

#6 Ciekawostki ze świata Tim Kosse Other low Other
Description

If I have for instance, 9 large 250 meg files in the queue, the last cell in the status bar has a negative number for the total filesize of all the files in the queue.

#11 Little bug when refreshing in 1.4 Tim Kosse Bug report low Unknown
Description

If you refresh the windows, FileZilla 1.4 will take you to the local storage units in the "Local Site" window, instead of refreshing the directory you are in.

#14 Can't "Remove" directory on remote host Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

When using the "Remove" option on a remote host, files are removed but not directories. Remove works great on local system.

#16 directory beginning with space Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

Hello,

Using Filezilla 1.4 on windows 2000 SP2: I tried to enter in a directory called " mydir" (the name begin with a space). But Filezilla report it as "mydir", and I cannot enter in it (I stay in the current directory).

I created a directory called " " (=space) to check. while refreshing (F5 key): one time the directory appears without the " " entry. At next refresh no more entries appear (directory appears empty) !

Otherwise Filezilla is nice... Regards,

#19 Files & directories don't show up in 1.4 Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

When I connect to a remote system, the file and

directory items don't show up in the remote site list

window except for '..'(parent directory)

Log is as follows. As you can see, the size of data

transfer for '/bin/ls' is zero.

Status: Connecting to xxxxxx ... Status: Connected with xxxxxx. Waiting for welcome message... Response: 220 xxxxxx FTP server (SunOS 5.7) ready. Command: USER stlim Response: 331 Password required for stlim. Command: PASS Response: 230 User stlim logged in. Status: Connected Status: Retrieving directory listing... Command: PWD Response: 257 "/home/stlim" is current directory. Command: PORT xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,x,xxx Response: 200 PORT command successful. Command: TYPE A Response: 200 Type set to A. Command: LIST Response: 150 ASCII data connection for /bin/ls (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx,xxxx) (0 bytes). Response: 226 ASCII Transfer complete.

#21 Source code Compiler error!! Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

Visual C++ report: "'hhc.exe" cannot be found!

#22 Wrong filesize in overwrite dialog Tim Kosse Bug report low Unknown
Description

When uploading a file with a name that already is on the server, the "File already exists" dialog shows the size of the file you want to upload both in the description of the offline and the online file, but it does not show the true size of the file on the server.

#24 Reconect function remembers password Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

When defining a entry list for a ftp server, if "Remember password" is unchecked, the application will ask for the password when connecting, but it doesn't when reconnecting. Even afer closing-reopenin the app.

#28 Transfer Light Icons Placement Tim Kosse Bug report low Unknown
Description

Here is how to produce the error: I) Set the configuration to remember window size and position II) Maximize the window, and then close FileZilla III) Open FileZilla, and look at the transfer light icons on the bottom right of the window. There are incorrectly positioned as illustrated in part "1)" of the attached screen shot IV) Click the "Restore Down" button (illustrated in part "2)" of the attached screen shot) V) Click the "Maximize" button (illustrated in part "3)" of the attached screen shot) and the icons are now correctly positioned.

#30 error in german translation Tim Kosse Bug report low Unknown
Description

there's a mistake with two texts

see the patch:

--- FileZilla.rc.orig Thu Oct 25 10:55:05 2001 +++ FileZilla.rc Thu Oct 25 10:58:07 2001 @@ -665,9 +665,9 @@

CONTROL "Passwort &nicht

speichern",IDC_PASSDONTSAVE,"Button",

BS_AUTOCHECKBOX | BS_MULTILINE |

WS_TABSTOP,282,123,52,

26

  • LTEXT "&Lokaler

Standardordner:",IDC_STATIC,180,189,77,8 + LTEXT "S&tandardordner auf dem Server:",IDC_STATIC,180,189,77,8

EDITTEXT

IDC_REMOTEDIR,180,198,154,14,ES_AUTOHSCROLL

  • LTEXT "S&tandardordner auf dem

Server:",IDC_STATIC,180,216,102, + LTEXT "&Lokaler Standardordner:",IDC_STATIC,180,216,102,

8

EDITTEXT

IDC_LOCALDIR,180,225,154,14,ES_AUTOHSCROLL

END

#35 connect to default site Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

When doing "connect to default site" under "File", it does not remember the remote default start path and goes to the default login directory rather than the spefified in the program.

#36 Typo Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

When right-clicking and selecting "Download as...", in the box appeared, it says "passwort" for "password".

#38 Confusing order in site manager Tim Kosse Bug report low Unknown
Description

It's a minor detail, but the fact that the login type is BELOW the fields where you type in your username and password in the site manager is slightly counter- intuitive. When adding a new entry to the site manager, you generally want to fill the information in the dialog from the top-down. If you want to use a non-anonymous login, you have to first go DOWN to where you can define login type, then back UP to type in your logon information.

It seems silly, but try doing it with the keyboard and no mouse. It makes the error even more evident.

#40 Incorrect year listed Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

The year on the remote site displays 2000 when the real date is 2001 after I change my system clock back a week or a month.

#51 Compiling error Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

D:\FileZilla\FileZilla\source\stdafx.h(25) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'htmlhelp.h': No such file or directory

Compiling error??

#53 problem with multiline reply? Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

try connecting to sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de filezilla (tested 1.7 and 1.7b) gives a timeout (when not stopping it manually) i also tried ncftp and manual telnet connection, both is ok

maybe the problem ist the multiline reply (described on page 36 of rfc 959)

log follows:

FileZilla started (12/04/2001 10:45:42) Status: Verbinden mit sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de... Status: Verbinde mit sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de. Warten auf Willkommens Mitteilung... Antwort: 220 ProFTPD 1.2.2rc1 Server (SunSITE Central Europe) [sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de] Befehl: USER anonymous Antwort: 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete email address as your password. Befehl: PASS * Antwort: 230-Welcome to SunSITE CEUR! Antwort: Antwort:

---- Note -----

Antwort:

Due to bandwidth - problems we have reduced the

Antwort:

maximum transfer rate for certain files (especially

Antwort:

some iso-CD images). Users from inside RWTH Aachen,

Antwort:

please use ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:2121

Antwort:

to access the SunSITE without bandwidth limitations.

Antwort:

---- Note ----

Antwort: Antwort: 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply. Fehler: Abbruch durch Benutzer!

telnet log:

$ telnet sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de 21 Trying 137.226.116.98... Connected to star.informatik.rwth-aachen.de. Escape character is ']'. 220 ProFTPD 1.2.2rc1 Server (SunSITE Central Europe) [sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de] user anonymous 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete email address as your password. pass rbla@… 230-Welcome to SunSITE CEUR!

---- Note ----- Due to bandwidth - problems we have reduced the maximum transfer rate for certain files (especially some iso-CD images). Users from inside RWTH Aachen, please use ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de:2121 to access the SunSITE without bandwidth limitations. ---- Note ----

230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply. pwd 257 "/" is current directory. quit 221 Goodbye. Connection closed by foreign host.

#57 relative paths and quit-command Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

i just use the server and i noticed these 2 problems:

  1. the server doesn't know the quit-command (500

Syntax error, command unrecognized.)

  1. if i activate "Show relative paths" for a user then

this user can't change to another directory (550 CWD failed. "/EXAMPLE": directory not found.)

it's running on a winME system

#75 replies 150 and 226 on ls come together Bug report low Other
Description

Just a thought I am not claiming to be an expert on this.

The replies to ls 150 and 226 come together on the same server reply. the client has to dig in there to find out that those are actually to responses.

I thought it was confusing to the client side it was in my client (my program), nothing I could not handle though. I just though it might be confusing to other clients.

I read the RFC959 and it is not clear whether you should send them seperatelly

#81 remaining time and queue size ... Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

I had three files (each about 700 MB) in the Queue. Today when I resumed them the "remaining time" and "queue size" got crazy.

I'm running version 1.8.1.

Martin Petisme

#84 Queue losing host information Bug report low Other
Description

I had a problem where after exiting FileZilla the Queue remained when I Restarted, but it had forgotten it's host information.

Thus when trying to process the queue, it locked up the program until the Maximum retries on each file were all used up.

I can't seem to reproduce this error.

#103 Links on remote server Bug report low Other
Description

Links on a remote server are not recognized properly.

For example, see ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/freedb/. There's a link 'freedb-win-20020327.rar', which is recognized by FileZilla as a directory.

An attempt to download this file (the link points to freedb-win.rar) results in FileZilla trying to "CWD freedb-win- 20020327.rar" which of course raises a "550 freedb-win- 20020327.rar: No such file or directory." error.

#119 netscapes ftp server Bug report low Other
Description

netscape did something to their ftp server. cuteftp still shows the dir listing, but doesnt know the path anymore. filezilla says its an empty dir.

#129 bad local directory listing Feature request low FileZilla Server
Description

Running 1.9.8 beta 6 on win98. Every item in the current folder is repeated at least 50 times - folders and files.

#130 Misses Long Filenames in OpenVMS Tim Kosse Bug report low Other
Description

Using FileZilla version 1.9.8. Filenames over approximately 17 characters long do not show up in the remote site window. Looking at the trace output of a List Directory, it appears that the data returned to Filezilla wraps everything after the filename (size, date, time, permissions) to the next line. For shorter filenames, it returns the information on a single line. Am attaching detailed tracefile that details the information.

#132 Site Manager - Drag / Drop Bug report low Other
Description

Hi, there is a small problem with the drag and drop routine in the site manager section.

In site manager, display several open folders containing ftp sites so that they extend both above and below the viewing pane.

Now, try to drag and drop an item into a folder which is outsite the viewing pane. There is no scrolling.

There is no way to drag the item into the folder if it can not be seen.

Cheers, Clive

#133 Local directory tree goes beyond C: Bug report low Other
Description

When browsing the local tree, when one arrives at the root directory (C:\) there is still a folder in the interface for going to the "parent" directory of C:\. When clicked upon, it goes to "\", showing the drive letters as part of the directory listing. However, trying to access any drive letter is impossible since it goes to "\<drive>\", which doesn't exist. (for example, C:\, the parent is \, and going to c: again leads to \c:\. The workaround for now would be to type in the drive letter at the "local site".

#137 Windows Registry Entries Bug report low Other
Description

Rather an annoyance for me. I like to make sure my registry is very clean, and i notice that filezilla has two entries under my winXP system:

HKCU\Software\FileZilla (being used properly)

HKCU\Software\Local AppWizard-Generated Applications\FileZilla (totally void and unnecessary)

It'd be great if the exe doesn't make the latter entry. It's a quick fix, and one I'd do myself.

Every last reclaimed bit in the registry helps.

#155 Timestamp out 1hr on downloaded files Bug report low Other
Description

If I download a file from the remote site to local and I have the "Preserve date/time of downloaded files" option set, the timestamp for the file once downloaded is one hour out.

For example:

Remtoe file is dated 07/08/2002 14:44. After downloading,. the local file is dated 07/08/2002 15:44.

My other FTP client gets it right. I also verified the remote file timestamp in a shell session.

#156 Issues with new transfer system Bug report low Other
Description

The new separated transfer "thread" in Filezilla is nice but the implementation has problems.

I think you must have a user definable file size, below which the seperate connection is not established and instead the "browsing" connection is used (as how it worked before). When developing I tend to upload small files repeatedly and before this was very quick, but now every time I upload a file I have to wait about 15 seconds everytime for the connection to be established.

Also, it appears that the second connection is dropped as soon as the file/queue is transferred. I think you need to add an option so that this connection is kept alive for a specified duration of time. So when new transfers are initiated it doesn't have to reconnect again (which on my system takes around 10-15 seconds).

#177 Links are not translated correctly Bug report low Other
Description

Tested with FileZilla v2.0.2 on Windows 98 SE.

Links made to files are translated as being directories. That makes downloading impossible. This bug can be easily tested on the Gnome ftp server. Please try this link -> ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/stable/latest/sources/ . FileZilla is unable to download any of the files. Actually I've tested this on many other FTP clients and the only capable of downloading the files was the standard windows ftp command line client (ftp.exe). :)

#184 Ver 2.1.0 Site Manager Backup Bug report low Other
Description

Hi, in the previous versions of FileZilla it was possible to back up the setting associated in SITE MANAGER. However, in this version I can not seem to do this. Only Filezilla settings can be backedup. Please can this feature be restored! [Now, if I have made an error and the feature is still there. Then please tell me where to find the feature.]

#209 FileZilla is too damn good Bug report low Other
Description

You guys kick ass You've saved my ass so many times & BTW, Filezilla ROCKS

Thanks

#219 Incorrect datestamp in UNIX Bug report low Other
Description

I see that someone posted a bug about an incorrect timestamp in UNIX. We are seeing an incorrect datestamp, where the date shown in filezilla is a year later than the actual date. So, a file dated Oct 11 2001 is shown in Filezilla as Oct 11 2002. The file is on a Sun Solaris 2.8 server. If you have a fix for this, let me know, as this is makes Filezilla unusable for us. Thanks.

Margaret mlouie@…

#221 Fatal exception windows Bug report low Unknown
Description

Hi, Note that 2 windows of maintain report exception in filezilla 2.1.2 display 2 different e-mail addresses. First windows: Tim.Kosses@… Second windows: Tim.Kosse@…

First e-mail address (tim.kosses@…) doesn't exist.

Please fix them.

Bye

#263 client: SFTP really slow Bug report low Other
Description

-Version: FileZilla_2_1_4a binary from this site -OS: Windows XP SP1

Filezilla shows really bad performance when accessing my SFTP server. In my 100 MBit LAN is get 60kb/s where pure FTP transfers at 6 MB/s. A friend of mine had the same Problem accessing the same sftp server with Filezille (same version) from the internet (speed only 3 kb/s where it should be 80 kb/s). Using another sftp client (SecureFX Demo Version) solved the Problem so I think Filezilla is to be blamed.

I used this SFTP server for testing: ProFTPD Version 1.2.2 Mandrake linux 8.2 kernel 2.4 openssh 3.4

#524 date parsing on LIST command Bug report low FileZilla Client rejected
Description

When the LIST command is responded to by an FTP server (as the result of getting the list of files in a directory), certian date formats are not parsed correctly:

Example:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 noone nogroup 142 jun 01 1999

abort.txt

is parsed correctly, but

-rw-rw-rw- 1 noone nogroup 142 01-jun-99 abort.txt

is not parsed correctly.

The end result is the file name is listed in the GUI as:

"-rw-rw-rw- 1 noone nogroup 142 01-jun-99

abort.txt"

which make file tranfer impossible.

#560 SSL connection only works when debug enabled Bug report low Other
Description

This bug was found in versions 2.2.0 and 2.2.3

It appears FileZilla has a timing/synchronization problem when using SSL

When connecting via SSL passively to my freebsd server I repeatedly get the following...

Status: Connecting to www.realdesk.com ... Status: Connected with www.realdesk.com, negotiating SSL connection... Response: 220 www.beq.ca FTP server (Version 6.00LS+TLS) ready. Command: AUTH SSL Response: 234 AUTH SSL OK. Error: Timeout detected! Error: Unable to connect! Status: Waiting to retry... (5 retries left) Status: Connecting to www.realdesk.com ... Status: Connected with www.realdesk.com, negotiating SSL connection... Response: 220 www.beq.ca FTP server (Version 6.00LS+TLS) ready. Command: AUTH SSL Response: 234 AUTH SSL OK. Error: Timeout detected! Error: Unable to connect!

However when I turn on debugging, I get the SSL popup immediately and the output looks like this:

Status: Connecting to www.realdesk.com ... Status: Connected with www.realdesk.com, negotiating SSL connection... Response: 220 www.beq.ca FTP server (Version 6.00LS+TLS) ready. Command: AUTH SSL Response: 234 AUTH SSL OK. Trace: Using TLSv1, cipher TLSv1/SSLv3: AES256-SHA, 1024 bit RSA Status: SSL connection established. Waiting for welcome message... Command: USER realdesk Trace: FtpControlSocket.cpp(578): OnReceive(0) OpMode=1 OpState=0 caller=0x00b79288 Response: 331 Password required for realdesk. Command: PASS * Trace: FtpControlSocket.cpp(578): OnReceive(0) OpMode=1 OpState=3 caller=0x00b79288 Response: 230 User realdesk logged in. Status: Connected Trace: FtpControlSocket.cpp(2877): ResetOperation(1) OpMode=1 OpState=-2 caller=0x00b79288 Trace: FtpControlSocket.cpp(846): List(FALSE,0,"","",1)

OpMode=0 OpState=-1 caller=0x00b79288

Status: Retrieving directory listing... Command: PWD Trace: FtpControlSocket.cpp(578): OnReceive(0) OpMode=4 OpState=0 caller=0x00b79288 Response: 257 "/home/realdesk" is current directory. Trace: FtpControlSocket.cpp(846): List(FALSE,0,"","",0)

OpMode=4 OpState=0 caller=0x00b79288

Status: Directory listing successful Trace: FtpControlSocket.cpp(2877): ResetOperation(1) OpMode=4 OpState=0 caller=0x00b79288

These behaviours are consistent with whether I have debugging enabled or not.

#737 Installer / french "locale" - string too long Bug report low Other
Description

In the latest version of the installer, when the French language is selected, there is a string which is not displayed entirely :

"Parametres generaux" (General Parameters page) :

in the second Memo text-block concerning the XML files usage, the sentence is croped/sliced :

"... de sorte que" |<-- croped here

Possible solution : use a less verbose sentence, like :

"Filezilla peut enregistrer ses paramètres à deux endroits différents : Dans la base de registre ou dans un fichier XML. (|remove '\n' here|) Il est recommandé d'utiliser le fichier XML, cependant, dans les environnements multi- utilisateurs, utiliser la base de registre permet ..." <-- here put the end of the sentence I couldn't read

I assume this is either :

"...de partager la configuration."

OR

"...d'avoir une configuration distincte pour chaque utilisateur."

(i.e. to share the config OR to have distinct configs)

#741 spelling error : 426 Error. Bug report low Unknown
Description

426 Error. Transfere aborted. An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine.

It should read 426 Error. Transfer aborted. An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine.

#765 Transfer queue panel gets bigger every time I start Bug report low Unknown
Description

The height of the transfer queue is increased from where I left it every time I start Filezilla. I started out on 2.2.3 and am currently using 2.2.9. Every version has done this.

I'm using Windows XP and am downloading the binary installers.

My layout has the toolbar at the top followed by the message log. Below that I have the local tree view, local file list and remote file list rendered as 3 columns. Under those is the transfer queue and then the status bar.

It seems that each time I close Filezilla, it edits filezilla. xml and changes the following line:

<Item name="Last Splitter Pos" type="string">95 513 273 109 602</Item>

It reduces the second value by 27 each time, so if I started FZ open with the above line in the XML file, it would change the 513 to 486 when I closed. Next time it would change 486 to 459 etc.

This is a very minor problem but quite annoying because the columns keep getting shorter and shorter and I have to adjust them a couple of times per day :)

#970 command "CWD ~" failed (+ possible solution) Bug report low FileZilla Server
Description

The Opera Internet Browser before changing dir always send "CWD ~" first. And expect after that is current dir changed to home dir ("/"). But FileZilla said: "550 CWD failed. '/<current dir>/~': directory not found. "

I think in file 'Permission.cpp' in begining of function 'CStdString CPermissions::CanonifyServerDir(CStdString currentDir, CStdString newDir) const' should be added next code: ------------------------------ if (newDir == "~") {

newDir = "/"; return newDir;

}; -----------------------------

#976 Usability: Remote / Local paths + wrong slashes Bug report low FileZilla Client
Description

Detail: It's 3am, you're tired. You use the edit control to alter your current location on the Remote site, but accidentally use a \ where you should have used a /. Luckily, Filezilla knows what you mean and converts it to the right slash.

When you begin to rely on that behaviour, it's extremely frustrating to attempt to do the same in the Local site control. You enter "c:/foo/bar/" and get an annoying warning.

Severity: Minor annoyance

Explanation: User relies on one behaviour which is inconsistent in other areas, causing frustration.

Solutions:

  • Path box automagically swaps slashes
  • Path boxes (everywhere) are like a browser's location

bar, and facilitate something like tab-completion - not just for past entries into the box, either.

#1010 Minor display problem Alexander Schuch Bug report low FileZilla Client
Description

When transfers reach about 40MB/s, speed display erronous value as -3billion and some dusts...

#1073 Status window not utf-8 compatible Bug report low FileZilla Client
Description

When using i.e. Filezilla Server 0.9.16c beta The Filezilla Client 2.2.22 does not decode utf-8 chars

in welcome messages.

Welcome Message/Server entry: # Verknüpfungen

Client displayed: [12:50:10] Antwort: 220-# Verknüpfungen

#1260 aliases not working with some directory names Bug report low FileZilla Server
Description

I run the latest version of filezilla server in windows xp pro and have the following problem:

I have set E:\[mp3]\ as my home directory and added another directory D:\[movies]\ with the alias E:\[mp3]\movies

..and the movies alias doesn't show up. I have tried some different solutions and it seems like the "and" -signs are the cause of the trouble.

#1281 Typo on FileZilla Server Security Settings options Page Bug report low FileZilla Server
Description

Has the word bandwich instead of bandwidth.

#1290 Client wont minimize on Windows Key + M Bug report low FileZilla Client
Description

Regardless whether or not Filezilla is the application in focus or not, the windows shortcut Windows Key (Which in its self is Ctrl + Esc) + the M key minimizes all windows except Filezilla. It seems the filezilla just seems to be switching itself to no longer being in focus rather than minimizing.

Version 3.0.0 Bug seen on windows XP Pro SP2, and Vista Home Premium Edition, other windows verions not tested.

Cannot recall seeing this bug < 3.0.0

#1310 security issue Filezilla Client 3.0.1 Bug report low FileZilla Client
Description

Hi, the file

X:\Documents and Settings\USER\Application Data\FileZilla\sitemanager.xml

contains the password without encrypt.

Windows version

#1318 Queue inverse file sort order Alexander Schuch Bug report low FileZilla Client
Description

Bug is exists in Filezilla version 3.0.0.0 - 3.0.2.1

If you put into queue whole directory from FTP server then files are added in inverse filename order. For example: Server directory My_dir have files like: My_name01.xx My_name02.xx My_name03.xx ... My_name12.xx

And if you put whole directory to queue (not by select all files and put to queue, but goto parent directory and insert into queue directory My_dir) then files in queue are in order: My_dir\My_name12.xx My_dir\My_name11.xx ... My_dir\My_name02.xx My_dir\My_name01.xx

This is minor bug only but I prefer to have files in filename ascending order.

Or the best solution - user sorting type from Remote list window. Or make sorting type in this case configurable (by name, time of creation, modification etc.) in Filezilla configuration.

#1343 Minor "bug" in welcome message in FileZilla Server Alexander Schuch Bug report low FileZilla Server
Description

I have FileZilla Server version 0.9.25 beta installed on my computer. When I login with my FileZilla Client 3.0.4.1 there is a wrong Server version shown in the welcome message. I use the standard welcome message:

%v written by Tim Kosse (Tim.Kosse@…) Please visit http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/

Here is an extract of the server log:

Copyright 2001-2006 by Tim Kosse (tim.kosse@…) Connecting to server... Connected, waiting for authentication Logged on (000001) 09.01.2008 13:55:22 - (not logged in) (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)> Connected, sending welcome message... (000001) 09.01.2008 13:55:22 - (not logged in) (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)> 220-FileZilla Server version 0.9.24 beta (000001) 09.01.2008 13:55:22 - (not logged in) (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)> 220-written by Tim Kosse (Tim.Kosse@…) (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 09.01.2008 13:55:22 - (not logged in) (88.66.20.86)> 220 Please visit http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/

#1351 Can't work with STRATUS systems Bug report low FileZilla Client
Description

Hello,

I tried to transfer files from STRATUS systems under VOS release and I get a "550 LIST: ftp internal error s$expand_path:" error.

-Source : PC Windows XP SP2

-Target : STRATUS Continuum systems VOS release 13.3.4h

For your information, under STRATUS systems the ">" character is the same as "/" under UNIS/LINUX systems. Could you please have a look to work with this kind of fault tolerant systems?

(See file attached)

TIA, Jorge

#1369 automatic ban problems Bug report low FileZilla Server
Description

Not 100% sure it's a bug...

When I had a client trying to connect to my filezilla server he was constantly getting a "IP is banned" error message. I turned automatic ban off and it allowed him in. I upped the # of failed attempts to 10 instead of 5 and re-enabled it.

All the sudden he couldn't connect once again. He swears up and down he didn't attempt to connect with anything different that would have gotten him banned.

I suppose this could be a bug... but either way how about these 2 things:

1) display log that says, "connect attempt from IP has been banned by autoban"

2) button that says "clear autoban buffer" or something

Thanks & keep up the good work! -dan

#1400 Automatically adds / to remote folder Bug report low Other
Description

FileZilla is being a bit too "helpful." I set up my remote account in the Advanced tab of the Site Manager to default to the following remote directory:

public_html

That's it. Not /public_html -- public_html.

But regardless of whether I enter public_html or public_html/, FileZilla is adding a slash at the beginning.

No other FTP software has ever had a problem with me entering public_html as the default directory. Since public_html and /public_html are NOT the same thing, I consider this a bug and would like to see it fixed in the next version of FileZilla.

If FileZilla truly wants to be helpful, how about testing whether public_html exists, and if it doesn't work, suggesting to the user that they might have meant /public_html?

Thank you, -Erica

#1481 Updated changelog for version history.html Patch low FileZilla Client
Description

I noticed "version history.htm" in the documentation hadn't been updated in about 2 years the other day.

Had a little bit of spare time so I crashed up a quick (and awful) php script that got changelogs from the release notes on sf.net and generated output for each version in the same way as each release is listed in "version history.htm".

Did some small adjustments in a text editor afterwards, but haven't gone through the text so I haven't looked for errors, capitalized the first letters of each of the items in the different lists etc. Don't think it is too bad, though.

Maybe this will inspire codesquid to start updating the file again :)

#1521 Some confirmations Patch low FileZilla Client
Description

This patch implements RFE [ 959450 ].

A new setting in the interface settings dialog (best place I found to put it) lets you decide if you want to confirm deletion of entries in the Site Manager. The default value is to not show this confirmation dialog.

Only tested on Windows XP, but code should be platform independent.

#1534 Site Manager Tim Kosse Feature request low Unknown
Description

Finally - a non-bloated FTP client... This is wonderful!

but...

The site manager is too big for a 640x480 screen resolution (which I'm restricted to, at the moment). Oh, and I'd also like it if the main FTP window saved it's position setting, local tree view setting, etc...

Cheers, Matt

#1536 Default Local Directory in Site Manager Tim Kosse Feature request low Unknown
Description

First of all, I'd like to say, great job so far! I am a fan of open source and FileZilla is looking and working great so far.

I do have a suggestion (several actually, but just one for now): In the site manager, allow each site to have a default local directory so that when you connect to it, the local site pane automatically changes to that directory on your computer.

Great job and keep it up!

#1537 Option for Site Manager to Show on Start Tim Kosse Feature request low Unknown
Description

Hi again,

Here's another suggestion: Have an option for the Site Manager to show when FileZilla starts, or perhaps a simple list of sites in the site manager from which you could double-click one to have it connect to that site. It would save time from having to open the site manager when you start it.

Keep it up! :)

#1542 Remember Last Window State Tim Kosse Feature request low Unknown
Description

I am using FileZilla 1.4 on Windows 2000, service pack 2.

I think it would be nice if FileZilla followed the windows convention saved the Maximize/Restore settings when you close it. Currently, if I open FileZilla, maximize it, close it, and then re-open it, it doesn't open maximized. This is a nice feature, and I don't think it would be very hard to implement.

Thanks for a great product!

#1543 ctrl-a to select all Tim Kosse Feature request low Unknown
Description

It would be convenient if ctrl-a selected all items in the list views (both the file lists and the queue).

#1546 Windows Resizing Tim Kosse Feature request low Unknown
Description

It would be nice if you could resize the window smaller that it is now (v1.5a). It take about 75% of the screen and this can get very annoying, particularly when multiply windows are running.

#1548 Possibility to see "hidden" files Tim Kosse Feature request low Unknown
Description

It's quite annoying to "lose" your .htaccess files, and have to start a console ftp program to download and edit them.

It would be nice if there was an option to show them by default.

#1551 remember window position Tim Kosse Feature request low Unknown
Description

It would really be great if we dont have to resize the window everytime Filezilla is executed. If the window posiiton is maximised, it'd be better if it stays that way on the next execution jus like Internet Explorer.

#1552 file size view setting Tim Kosse Feature request low Unknown
Description

An option to set how file sizes must be shown would be very appreciated. Currently local files are in bytes, Kb or Mb according to their size, while remote files are always shown in bytes; if both were shown ALWAYS in bytes, it would be much easier for me finding out if a local file is the exact same version of the remote one.

BTW, great program! It's replacing CuteFTP on my system.

#1553 remember most view settings Tim Kosse Feature request low Unknown
Description

I think FileZilla should also remember other settings, besides the window size. For example, it could remember the size of the "frames", I mean, the local and remote file list areas... I always drag the separator to the left because I don't need all that space for the local file list, I prefer seeing the remote file permissions. And also list sort prefs should be remembered, maybe even on a single server scale, I mean... each configured FTP server might have its own sorting prefs.

And so on.

Keep up the good work, guys!

#1554 More info on remote window Feature request low Other
Description

There needs to be an option in the remote side window to add information on each files of the "file owner".

#1603 Map a FTP-site to a drive letter Feature request low Other
Description

I would like to be able to map a ftp-drive to a drive letter (e.g. h:) so I can edit files on a FTP-server directly without manually having to download file, edit file, upload file.

In this way my favorite FTP-sites will also be directly accessible to me from various programs.

See also http://in.deerfield.com/ for a commercial program that does just that.

#1661 French version Feature request low Other
Description

I wish a French version of FileZilla. I can undertake the translation. Thank's for this very good soft.

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