Opened 19 years ago

Last modified 4 months ago

#2191 reopened Feature request

Directory drag & drop option

Reported by: jschwindt Owned by: Tim Kosse
Priority: high Component: FileZilla Client
Keywords: drag-and-drop move directory Cc: jschwindt, Alexander Schuch, binarygeometry@…, tobias.marjo@…, alex.panush.becor@…, oberhauser@…, pepalogik@…, filezilla@…
Component version: Operating system type:
Operating system version: All

Description (last modified by Alexander Schuch)

We find it very dangerous the ability to move folders
in the remote pane without asking for a confirmation.
It would be nice to have a option that the user can
check in order to ask for the confirmation.


Update:

There are two possibilities:

  • ask the user for confirmation
  • disable drag and drop

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comment:1 by Alexander Schuch, 16 years ago

This still is not implemented in FileZilla 3.0.10.

comment:2 by Alexander Schuch, 15 years ago

Keywords: easy added

comment:3 by nefarious, 15 years ago

Operating system type: Windows
Priority: normalhigh

Please please please implement this. I accidentally dragged a folder into another folder while trying to search through folders for a file's location and didn't notice - I brought down a client's site overnight until they alerted me of it the next morning. I'll basically have to use WinSCP until this is implemented, and it can't be a hard thing to implement.

comment:4 by Tim Kosse, 15 years ago

Status: newmoreinfo

Do you have any example of a file manager included in modern operating systems that asks for a confirmation?

in reply to:  4 comment:5 by Brad, 14 years ago

Status: moreinfonew

Replying to codesquid:

Do you have any example of a file manager included in modern operating systems that asks for a confirmation?

Two file managers that allow this are Total Commander and Free Commander. Both of these allow you to have this setting on or off. I believe both have it on by default.

I would also love to see this implemented. Preferably in both the local and the remote pane but not between panes unless their is the ability to disable it. If implemented it would be great to have preference settings defaulted to have warnings on that allow users turn them off or configure as they want.

comment:6 by Tim Kosse, 14 years ago

Status: newmoreinfo

Those aren't included in a modern operating system, they are third-party tools.

comment:7 by Brad, 14 years ago

Status: moreinfonew

Granted, but what is the point of the question?

comment:8 by Tim Kosse, 14 years ago

To show you that FileZilla aims to follow the operating system guidelines.

comment:9 by Brad, 14 years ago

What are the "operating system guidelines"?

Just because a file manager is bundled in with a modern operating system does not mean the way it operates provides the best functionality or user experience. Windows Explorer for instance is not a great file manager (I have hardly used it beyond XP so maybe it has improved a lot and I am stretching the Modern operating system thing there).

It's my understanding that FileZilla is not tied to the underlying operating system functionality in any way. Or is it?

How could having increased capabilities/options for uses be a bad thing. Providing it does not effect user experience or program performance. If these settings existed they could by default be set to whatever the "operating system guidelines" recommended but then allow those who wish to change those defaults to do so which then improves their user experience.

Are you a developer for FileZilla? If this is not something that the FileZilla team wants to implement then so be it. Still a great product that I use almost every day, this is simply a feature request that at least 3 users would like to see make it into the program.

in reply to:  9 comment:10 by Ben, 14 years ago

We have also run into the situations that FileZilla moves the folders on the remote server under the cover for quite a few times!

We are looking for a setting to disable moving folders on the remote server, but can't find one. We stumbled upon this ticket and would like to add our input.

Moving folders on remote servers are very dangerous. FileZilla does it so smoothly and almost under the cover that on many occasions, we didn't see where the folders are moved or even didn't notice anything until it is too late.

It is not a good case to compare the folder moving capability of Windows Explorer and FileZilla.

First, users tend to move or rename folders on local computer much more often than a remote server, which tends to serve as a Web server. It makes it more practical for local machine to have the folder-moving feature than for remote server. Second, the damage of mistakenly moving folder on a local machine is isolated and is a lot less severe than that on a remote server serving as a Web server. Third, with Windows Explorer, it is easy to undo the moving. You can undo it even in the situation that you discover the mistake after you have closed the Windows Explorer - you can simply re-start Windows Explorer and go to "Edit" menu to undo the moving. But with FileZilla, it is harder to undo the damage. Once you close the FileZilla and discover the mistake afterwards, restarting FileZilla won't show you the history in the previous remote session and you can't tell where the folder has been moved to.

Please consider adding the settings so that users can choose to turn it off to avoid potentially dangerous mistakes.

  • Ben

Replying to bkel:

What are the "operating system guidelines"?

Just because a file manager is bundled in with a modern operating system does not mean the way it operates provides the best functionality or user experience. Windows Explorer for instance is not a great file manager (I have hardly used it beyond XP so maybe it has improved a lot and I am stretching the Modern operating system thing there).

It's my understanding that FileZilla is not tied to the underlying operating system functionality in any way. Or is it?

How could having increased capabilities/options for uses be a bad thing. Providing it does not effect user experience or program performance. If these settings existed they could by default be set to whatever the "operating system guidelines" recommended but then allow those who wish to change those defaults to do so which then improves their user experience.

Are you a developer for FileZilla? If this is not something that the FileZilla team wants to implement then so be it. Still a great product that I use almost every day, this is simply a feature request that at least 3 users would like to see make it into the program.

comment:11 by joomlagate, 14 years ago

Keywords: drag-drop move directory added; easy removed
Priority: highcritical

Why this issue has not been solved till today?

If Filezilla author does not agree with this feature, why NOT just add it as an option?

It is a shame that you just ignored such an important problem!!!

comment:12 by Tim Kosse, 14 years ago

Priority: criticalnormal

Please do not mark issues as critical that are not security vulnerabilities.

It is a shame that you just ignored such an important problem!!!

Out of millions of user, the few that have requested this particular features can be counted with one hand. Hardly an important feature.

comment:13 by Bob Dankert, 13 years ago

I have had this problem experienced by every single employee at the company I work over the years. Each time it results in software throwing errors and stopping to function. In regards to the "tell me an OS that supports this", you can set this in Windows XP and later OSes by setting a registry key or setting an option in group policy, which allows you to push it out through a domain. Specifically, you can set this in the registry here:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Zones\0]
"1802"=dword:00000001

This is exactly what I would like to see in Filezilla. An option to enable a prompt for moving folders through click and drag. I don't care how this option is enabled (registry, setting in options/preferrences), but I feel like this feature could be enabled within a short period of time and it would prevent headaches amongst many users. Even though you haven't heard of this issue from "millions of users", I would bet that the majority of users who do this will eventually find the problem, go "oops, shouldn't have done that" and move on without requesting the fix.

This is just my opinion, but I feel that this would strengthen filezilla significantly.

comment:14 by ikary, 13 years ago

Operating system version: win2003
Priority: normalhigh

please really need this program to add an option to avoid the renaming of files from one directory to another. It is very dangerous

comment:15 by please help, 13 years ago

Operating system version: win2003XP

6 years and this has not been fixed? I found this with google after sifting through 50 folders to find the folder i accidently moved, this was more difficult then it sounds since i didnt know which folder moved. This is a critical problem, obviously no one is ever going to fix it, does anyone know of another file transfer program that isnt so dangerous, i have a big website with thousands of files, this thing could spell disaster.

comment:16 by Derek Collie, 12 years ago

Operating system version: XP7

I too found this thread after Googling the problem. I accidentally moved a folder on a live site - big problem etc etc. To make directory dragging prompting an OPTION would prevent so much potential damage. Consider my vote for this added emphatically.

in reply to:  description comment:17 by Johan, 12 years ago

I agree this is dangerous and am disappointed it was never changed. codesquid seems to think need is small but i disagree. I think people blame themselves or don't want to go through the trouble of reporting. So I decided to make a trac account just to add my vote for this.

Numbers aside those who DO suffer from this suffer a LOT, that should count for something.

Also remember that touch interfaces will only grow in popularity with the pads,netbooks and phones.

comment:18 by dougall, 12 years ago

This should *definitely* be a user interface option.

Presumably it'd be simple to implement and would make Filezilla more "bullet proof" for people suffering drag and drop incompetence (for whatever reason!).

While it's true that relatively few people have noticed and commented on this ticket, this doesn't mean it isn't a sensible improvement in it's own right.

comment:19 by Schweb Design, 12 years ago

First let me say Filezilla is amazing and i much appreciate all the developers do to keep it functional, safe, and up to date. Until today, i've never been disappointed with Filezilla (although i take responsibility for my mistake... i'm disappointed this isn't being given more attention). After using Filezilla for 4+ years myself, just yesterday i had this same incident happen to me: i double clicked a remote folder to navigate within it, but sure enough my mouse twitched just enough and quickly enough that i ended up actually moving the folder into the adjacent folder. Of course, all hell broke loose, server crashed, phone blew up, etc.

I thought "Surely Filezilla will have an option to either disable the drag & drop file/folder move capability or at least require confirmation." But sure enough after searching i found this thread and indeed, it seems this is not perceived as important by the developers.

Although this is a rare occurrence, with the amount of comments here and the dangerous (and hard to diagnose) consequences of this when/if it DOES happen... isn't this something we could at least have hope of being implemented soon?

I've always recommended Filezilla to all clients, but i may have to find an alternative (i think there are some mentioned above that do provide the capability to disable this) at least for my less deft-with-a-mouse-when-double-clicking clients... which is pretty much all of them. Not to sound conceded, but if it can happen to me when simply trying to double-click, it can happen to anyone.

comment:20 by pong3d, 12 years ago

I've been using Filezilla for about as long as this ticket has been opened and this is the first time I found the need for a change. I'm surprised that someone posted only 4 hours ago about the same issue that I discovered around the same time. I didn't blow up a server but today I realized that I easily could by accidentally dragging a critical directory. Please make this change and make Filezilla continue to be the best FTP client out there.

comment:21 by Schweb Design, 12 years ago

I just wanted to share with others who see this thread my temporary work around, for lack of a better term, until this feature is implemented.

Whenever possible, instead of double-clicking in the remote server pane to navigate to afolder on the server, instead use the "toggle synchronized browsing" option and have the same folder structure on your local machine in the left local folder pane. Then you can double click in the left pane on the respective folder to navigate the folder structure on both the remote server side and local machine side... and at least if you accidentally move a folder/file you won't cause server-side issues because it will be within the local machine pane that the move is made only.

comment:22 by postadelmaga, 12 years ago

Please implement this, we just need a configuration option to enable/disable drag and drop.
It would take 5 min to implement it for Filezilla dev ...

Regards

comment:23 by Alexander Schuch, 12 years ago

Taken from closed duplicate #2191:

"When working with Pen Tablets (Wacom,etc..) the high precision of the pointer causes very difficult to click shortly on a folder to select it. Usually the pointer drag a little pixels, causing the folder moving, and disastrous results on productive servers.

A option for disable (or confirmation dialog) would improve security when working with graphic poninters."

comment:24 by Alexander Schuch, 12 years ago

The closed duplicate of course is is #7448.

comment:25 by ikary, 12 years ago

confirmed, at this date, two production server crashed because of this
thx

comment:26 by sam rudloff, 12 years ago

I am a software developer and i know that this feature is not only need but required for a piece of software this important!!!!

quit being lazy and get this done for us its been 3 fucking years.

3 times ive done this drag drop crap and taken down sites... its just starting to piss me off

comment:27 by Alex, 12 years ago

I've been using Filezilla for 3 years but only for the past year I used it extensively when I got a position as a full time web developer. In the past year, 5 times I accidentally moved a folder, bringing client's website down. If it wasn't for our monitoring service, it could be days before we would notice the problem.
Only now (after 5th time) I decided to search the web for a solution and came across this ticket. I also think you should implement this feature. Just because other users did not report it, does not mean they do not need it.
I like Filezilla more than any other FTP clients but if this option is not implemented, I will start looking at other software. I'm not trying to threaten you, just merely stating the fact how important this feature is. I cannot have my boss yell at me again for moving folders.

comment:28 by Schweb Design, 12 years ago

Still agreed with all comments here. I just wanted to share another (see previous comments above) tip in the meantime for those of us who see this happening too often.

If we can change our behavior when using filezilla for now, the following might help prevent server meltdowns:
Whenever possible, instead of double-clicking in the remote server pane to navigate to to a folder on the server, single-click to highlight it and press enter on your keyboard.

Indeed, this is far from ideal and far from how any of use actually use our computer to do this, but it could help for now. Of course, it'd be a lot easier to have an option in Filezilla to require confirmation for moving of a folder, at the very least.

Is anyone from Filezilla seeing this thread? How many comments do we need here to know if this is being considered?

comment:29 by McLay, 11 years ago

Please! Make this feature! Our site was down for 6 hours because of accidental drag and drop!

comment:30 by Crim, 11 years ago

Please add this feature!

I accidentally broke our Magento webshop with multiple orders a minute (downtime of 2 hours) because of a wrong click and drag while uploading some files.

A simple optional "Are you sure you want to do this" would be enough.

Windows 7 may not have a confirmation dialog like this but you can simply UNDO a wrong action by pressing ctrl-z. Maybe this "Undo" functionality is something for Filezilla too ?

comment:31 by Crim, 11 years ago

Cc: istoutjesdijk@… added

in reply to:  description comment:32 by double click drop site down, 11 years ago

Cc: binarygeometry@… added
Operating system type: WindowsLinux
Operating system version: 7Ubuntu 12.04

Replying to jschwindt:

Can I just add my voice to the list of people hoping to see this implemented.

I respect that it is a free project and that your time is limited, however I brought a whole shop down this morning and had to restore from back-up. Not the end of the world no, but really not ideal when using laptop trackpad pad to work in a hurry. I never would have had any idea what went wrong it it wasn't for doing it a second time and recieving the 'cannot move a folder inside itself' error.

A "do you really want to bring down a whole website' confirmation would be super handy. Thanks!

comment:33 by Nick Gustafsson, 11 years ago

+1 for this feature.
Would save many headaches.
Thanks for the great work.

comment:34 by Peter Cawkwell, 11 years ago

Another voice to the chorus.

My fat clay fingers keep getting me into trouble.

A move can be as much of a problem as a delete.
Deletes are confirmed; a move is "deleting" something from it's original position and drag and drop is far too easy.

The fact that only a few people have specifically requested this only means that they are the few who have taken the time register their desire for it. Anecdotal I know, but in my experience the problem is common amongst you're user base.

comment:35 by jeroen, 10 years ago

I would really like this feature, I also have been using Filezilla since years but just brought down a website accidently. It just happens when there's no need for this to happen.

comment:37 by wppb, 10 years ago

Operating system type: LinuxOS X

I have registered an account to also add my support to this feature request, and to concur with the opinions expressed by many others here. Please, please consider it. Thank you.

comment:38 by AvanOsch, 10 years ago

+1
If it would make things simpler (from the programmers point of view), I'd like to turn the entire "drag & drop" functionality off.
I only drag and drop in FileZilla by accident!

comment:39 by Tobias Marjo, 10 years ago

Cc: tobias.marjo@… added
Operating system type: OS XWindows
Priority: highblocker

Hi,

9 years later i may still verify the purpouse of this feature request.

Someone in the web department accidentally moved a folder on the FTP. (all using FileZilla FTP client)

The folder contained a whole clothing line collection, causing it to fail the entire collection for the web visitors.

This may have been prevented if there was a prompt when moving a folder inside FileZilla FTP client. (similar as when trying to delete a file or a folder)

Based on this typical fail example and all previous experience working with the web using ftp clients since 1995 - i highly recommend that this feature may be implemented SOON.

Preferably it may be available as a setting / checkbox to optionally toggle on/off - if possible.

Besides of this specific request - FileZilla FTP client is fantastic! :)

Many thanks!

Best regards,

Tobias

comment:40 by postadelmaga, 10 years ago

At this point I'm in doubt:
is the Filezilla development totally death ?

There is not other reason for having not response in 10 years for a very popular bug/feature-request.
If you consider that this should be very easy to implement ( at least for anyone that worked on this project) the only solution is that there is nobody on the other side of trac.filezilla ... at least nobody able to read !

comment:41 by chris.welford, 10 years ago

I would also like to voice agreement with this request. The current system means that with a slip of the mouse button you can move a folder without even realising and potentially cripple a site, I'm aware of several colleagues who have experienced this problem. A confirmation pop-up similar to when deleting would solve the problem and would seem relatively easy to implement. Having said that I do appreciate all the hard work that goes into the free software.

comment:42 by Alexander Schuch, 10 years ago

Operating system type: Windows
Operating system version: Ubuntu 12.04

comment:43 by Harald, 10 years ago

Hello,

I also very strong request following future:
when moving a file or a directory in the server side window, there should a warning dialog; i.e.
like: "Want you really move xxx to the destination yyy" [YES] [CANCEL]

Why is this important? Because there can be a lot of trouble when you using FTP on a virtual server as root (where you can not connect other to do admin transfers) and unintended move i.e. some library directory. Just some mouse wipe, and ups, later on you searching what has happened an get a lot of trouble. With a warning you would get in attention what happened and you can stop the move with CANCEL before it has started. I look for this future in FileZilla since years ago. My old FTP-Client WS_FTP form 2001 had implemented this behavior. I could bye a new WS_FTP version but I would more like to use FilleZilla. But without any warning it is to dangerous for me to use FileZilla.
I think it is not very complicated to realize this. In addition there could a option in the properties dialog to activate and deactivate this Move-Warning-Dialog; because some do not like it.

Thank you for an update when its would be done

comment:44 by Chris Rowe, 10 years ago

I agree that adding support for a confirmation prompt and/or support for disabling drag+drop would be a valuable addition to this software.

comment:45 by Alex, 10 years ago

Cc: alex.panush.becor@… added
Operating system type: Windows
Operating system version: 7
Priority: blockerhigh

I double this feature.
Today was third time I accidentely disabled a part of website.

It would be great if it'll be implemented on server only.

comment:46 by Harald, 10 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: newclosed

for me, waiting for this feature since years, I find a solution now.

I am using WinSCP instead of FileZilla.
http://winscp.net/eng/index.php

comment:47 by Alexander Schuch, 9 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: closedreopened

As far as I see, this is not fixed yet. So please do not mark it as "fixed". Thank you.

comment:48 by Alexander Schuch, 9 years ago

Operating system type: Windows
Operating system version: 7

comment:49 by agedreaper, 9 years ago

Operating system version: Windows

This feature is needed badly. Don't mistake people not being interested with how slow your login page is. I almost got frustrated and gave up.

comment:50 by postadelmaga, 9 years ago

Owner: set to Tim Kosse
Status: reopenedassigned

comment:51 by postadelmaga, 9 years ago

I have assigned to codesquid that looks very active on the repository ...

Forgive my criticism but ... let see if after 6 years somebody can give us any answer, even a 'no' without any justification would be a more polite answer that nothing at this point

by Andreas, 9 years ago

Options Screenshot

comment:52 by Andreas, 9 years ago

Cc: oberhauser@… added

Nowadays a lot of people works with FTP, also users with poor computer skills.
It is very important to have this feature added!

If you think adding this feature could be a lot of work, please consider adding an option "Do not allow to move folders" like Ws-Ftp ever had ;-)

In our company we really love FileZilla, however without this feature we are obliged to switch back to Ws-Ftp like 10 years ago.

comment:53 by Harald, 9 years ago

My solution is definitely:
switch to

WinSCP - Free FTP Client for Windows
http://winscp.net/eng/docs/free_ftp_client_for_windows

it has solved this problems with FileZilla.
Herald

comment:54 by magilvia, 9 years ago

Very very dangerous feature: I bringed down an entire server cause of this.
This option needs to be implemented ASAP.
Also microsoft has been very stupid to not implement this in windows since 95. How many requests I get from users who can't find their files because they have moved a folder accidentaly ?

in reply to:  54 comment:55 by Alex, 9 years ago

Replying to magilvia:

Very very dangerous feature: I bringed down an entire server cause of this.
This option needs to be implemented ASAP.
Also microsoft has been very stupid to not implement this in windows since 95. How many requests I get from users who can't find their files because they have moved a folder accidentaly ?

Moved to WinSCP after two similar accidents. It's not that lightweight but all features accompanying it compensate this with ease. No regret.

comment:56 by BillBSET, 9 years ago

I saw the feature request. So I only hoped.

In the windows explorer I can ctrl-Z returning the directory or file.
This flaw is a showstopper ...

comment:57 by Jim, 9 years ago

Just want to lend my voice to this feature request. Luckily I haven't had any disasters without it, but have come close.

comment:58 by Alexander Schuch, 9 years ago

Description: modified (diff)
Keywords: drag-and-drop added; drag-drop removed

comment:59 by Alexander Schuch, 9 years ago

Description: modified (diff)

comment:60 by Jonathan Crawford, 9 years ago

Is there any update on this ticket? It's 11 years old and a very simple fix. I love FileZilla, but my workplace workflow unfortunately has to allow content editors FTP access to our servers, and non-engineers are more likely to make accidental file move mistakes and not know where the original folder belongs. I know this is my place of work's workflow error, but sometimes I do it too, I just happen to know the server's structure really well so I can always fix it right away. I don't want to have to abandon and make all my content managers move to WinSCP.

Last edited 9 years ago by Jonathan Crawford (previous) (diff)

comment:61 by talamus, 8 years ago

Please, implement this.
Thank you.

comment:62 by hejhog, 8 years ago

Just messed up a production Magento server!!!!!!!!!!

This is a bigger issue than you believe it to be. I would put a bet on that a big percentage of Filezilla users have, at some point, mistakenly moved folders without realising. I would even bet that someone at Filezilla (may be you) have accidentally moved folders too - come on admit to it.

Please, Please, Please implement a feature to either enable/disable Drag & Drop or at the very least a CONFIRMATION POP UP when moving folders.

How difficult can this be!!!! "Are you really sure you want to move this folder? Yes/No"

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO I do not want to move this folder as I will surely break my Magento site and spend hours working out where I have mistakenly "drag & dropped" my files!!!!

Considering this is over 11 years old it seems insane that a simple feature has not been fulfilled.

I up vote the original post by +10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to the power of infinity.

comment:63 by jarrod1937, 8 years ago

I am developer and also find it quite odd that this simple feature has not been implemented. I can understand it's not a higher priority, but it is a simple feature to implement. I am not sure if a consensus must be made before such a change it allowed, but perhaps I'll take a stab at programming it myself (if time allows).
I like to use a highly sensitive mouse to easily move around in a multiple monitor setup (8 monitors), but this sensitivity can sometimes cause a click to be a drag. I have accidentally dragged a folder into another before on a live site, thankfully it was not anything critical and I saw the operation in the logging at the top... but still, odd for such an unavoidable thing to be allowed. My philosophy is that it doesn't matter what the user does, the program should operate as expected. In effect, this is protecting the user from themselves, and this feature certainly qualifies as such. Seriously, someone pick up this request and actually program it. It should be quick and simple and would prevent headaches for the technical and non-technical alike.

comment:64 by Daniel, 8 years ago

PLEASE, PLEASE.

I was going to open a request for this, but there is one that is already open, so I'll just add my two cents.

I suffer from Neurofibromatosis, which causes tumors to grow along the nerves through the nervous system, and i have found that occasionally I get stray signals to my nerves. On more than one occasion while using Filezilla to browse the directory tree of the remote server, and when attempting to double click on a folder, I have unintentionally moved the mouse up, thus moving the folder where I don't want It is also really easy to unintentionally drag a folder while simply trying to scroll through the list of folder.

comment:65 by bg17aw, 8 years ago

codesquid attitude is ridiculous. 11 years and no solution yet!

Please add my vote to the list and thank you to all that contributed with advise to mitigate this issue, I moved to WinSCP, a better overall client. I can't understand how such an important feature can be dismissed, the tickets closed, ignored etc.

Something is wrong at the attitude level.

comment:66 by Tim Kosse, 8 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: assignedclosed

Drag&drop can be disabled in the latest version by manually setting the "Drag and Drop disabled" option to 1 in filezilla.xml

comment:67 by Brad, 8 years ago

Wow...... Great work! Better 12 years later than never :)

I assume that "Drag and Drop" would only be disabled within the same server and you could still drag and drop from local to remote and vice versa if "Drag and Drop disabled" is set to "1" ?

Just checking.

in reply to:  66 comment:68 by Andreas, 8 years ago

Replying to codesquid:

Drag&drop can be disabled in the latest version by manually setting the "Drag and Drop disabled" option to 1 in filezilla.xml


Disabling the entry drag&drop functionality is not the solution!
It should be disabled only on the remote pane.

The definitive solution would be to disable the "MOVE files or folders" functionality, not the entry drag&drop. (see the OLD WsFtp attached screenshot)

Last edited 8 years ago by Andreas (previous) (diff)

comment:69 by Andreas, 8 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: closedreopened

comment:70 by Crim, 8 years ago

Cc: istoutjesdijk@… removed

comment:71 by bg17aw, 8 years ago

It's the move functionality that needs a confirmation (not a disable option).

The drag and drop functionality should still be kept if possible.

Also, why change the option in the .xml file and not in the general settings??

Wouldn't it be better to have a confirmation instead of getting rid of the whole functionality? ?

comment:72 by Harald, 8 years ago

There are 71 comments until now! Mine is 22 month ago!

What is the develop team get ridden not to fix this?

Its in-cognizable not to do anything but try from time to time to set the status to fixed. Maybe they are not able to pick an mouse event on the remote site. I see such a solution (confirming drag and drop when moving tree folders) in
WS_FTP Professional (http://www.ipswitch.com/ft/app/download/ws-ftp-client/evaluation.aspx) and
WinSCP (https://winscp.net/eng/index.php)
so it could be done.

in reply to:  72 comment:73 by Mike, 7 years ago

Problem now worse - new macOS Sierra, Filezilla, multi-screen(3).

Mouse seems hugely more sensitive without any change to settings.

Causing 'mass' folder movements, without any clicks.

Had to spend an hour moving server folders back to where they belong.

Local folders were being copied to other folders. Careful review and deletion of duplicates.

Filezilla therefore effectively unasable..

Found filezilla.xml in Users>xxx>.filezilla>filezilla.xml - Drag and Drop disabled = 1.

Filezilla, please put in a confirm Drag and Drop folder setting so that I can turn the feature back on, with confirm.

Thanks

comment:74 by Jan Lachnitt, 7 years ago

Cc: pepalogik@… added
Operating system version: WindowsAll

Another vote for this request. I wanted to open a remote folder by double-clicking, but I inadvertently moved the mouse in so doing. It took me a while to realize that I had moved the folder into the folder one line up. There is a weeks-long computation running in the moved folder! Executables, input and output files, all in that folder! Luckily, open files stay open in Linux even when moved. I have moved the folder back and everything seems to be OK. This was just to illustrate how easily an unwanted action can be done.

Having found this ticket, I wanted to disable drag&drop, but I couldn't find "Drag and Drop disabled" in filezilla.xml. I have thus added it manually:
<Setting name="Drag and Drop disabled">1</Setting>
but it has no effect. FileZilla 3.15.0.2 on Linux Mint.

I am not going to tell off the volunteer programmers who make FileZilla. I am also a programmer, and I would add the functionality myself if I had time, but that's what I don't have. However, dear developers, please consider that this ticket has a high priority and that the problem affects multiple users.

I think that the optimal solution has been suggested already: a simple "Yes/No" confirmation dialog. If you think that there are also users who like drag&drop without confirmation, just add a "Don't ask me again" checkbox (unchecked by default!) to the dialog.

comment:75 by clepsydrae, 7 years ago

Cc: filezilla@… added

comment:76 by clepsydrae, 7 years ago

@jenda -- I'm using 3.21.0 on Lubuntu and Kubuntu 16.10, and the setting works here.

I was coming to file a FR to have a confirmation for moving folders on the client side... it seems that there should be an option for both.

Dolphin, for example, pops up a small dialog when you drag a folder, allowing to choose between move/copy/link/etc. This seems ideal. On Windows, if you botch a folder drag, you can undo, right?

I just went to move the filezilla window, missed the hotkey for the window manager, and apparently copied (?) an unknown folder into an unknown folder. No info about which one it was, no undo option. Really frightening. I don't know if I just moved something secure to somewhere insecure, etc.

I have disabled Drag and Drop (thanks for that), but drag and drop is handy, so an option would be awesome.

Thanks for a great program.

comment:77 by mastazi, 7 years ago

I tried adding

<Setting name="Drag and Drop disabled">1</Setting>

but that line is automatically deleted every time I open/close Filezilla.

Making the filezilla.xml file read-only prevents the deletion but the setting does not seem to work when I open Filezilla (I can still drag and drop).

Using Filezilla version 3.27.1 on Windows 10.

comment:78 by Tim Kosse, 7 years ago

Don't add the setting, change the existing setting.

comment:79 by mastazi, 7 years ago

Thanks.

I'll leave it here for future reference:

If you just updated from an older version of Filezilla and your filezilla.xml does not have that line, you may have to restart your PC.

Or at least that seems to have worked for me, not sure if the devs can confirm that this is the case.

comment:80 by packi, 6 years ago

Also second this. Brought down a site and apparently also moved a custom.css file sometime in the past. Unfortunately I don't see anything better for Mac OS, so I will have to click+enter in the future.

Incredibly dangerous non-feature!

comment:81 by Edward Bonthrone, 6 years ago

One of my sites / database of 20 years is completely ruined - my PC froze and a heap of folders got moved who who knows where. Im not a techie and have no backups (Rackspace could get them working after several tries) so the feature this guy is asking for - default seting "Do you really want to move these files?" is a no-brainer. Love Filezila but common sense seems to have disappeared these days :(

Last edited 6 years ago by Edward Bonthrone (previous) (diff)

comment:82 by tedych, 6 years ago

Several times I came across problems after inadvertently moved by drag/drop directories while just wanted to select them in the tree.
This is a very dangerous.
Disabling drag-drop application-wide is not an option because I use this to upload/download files all the time.
It would be perfect if dragdrop could be disabled only for the trees. Such option is available in other softwares like file managers - for a reason.
It is much less possible to make mistakes while draging items between panes than in the tree. At least me, I only had made (many) mistakes in the tree by small movements while selecting folders.
At least add an option for confirmation, please. I can live with that confirmation when draging items between panes (uploading/downloading) if separation is not easy.

comment:83 by Edward Bonthrone, 6 years ago

Come on tech / coder folks!!!!!

Man alive - Im having to pay money now because of this major issue / bug.

I go to select folders and if the connection is slow or the PC sticks or mouse sticks - boom - they rename files and folders go missing
I have someone working on a massive problem I now have because of this.

I have to get a new server and employ someone to do it all

PLEASEE ADD THIS OPTION - MUST BE SOOO SIMPLE FOR A TECH / CODER.?!?!

Thanks

comment:84 by Edward Bonthrone, 6 years ago

14 years overdue by the looks of it and Filzilla is so great - WHY NO CONRIFMATION?!!!

ABSOLUTELY NUTS!

Some of us are NOT tech geniuses and are not too proud to say we need help.

Last edited 6 years ago by Edward Bonthrone (previous) (diff)

comment:85 by David Caldwell, 6 years ago

Way over due. Why not give us the option, I've moved folders accidentally so many times just clicking on the triangle to open a folder. This is insane for you to argue with your users about making this an option. I use a mac, I have to very slowly select the folders to NOT move the damn thing. What kind of idiot would NOT think this is a problem when it happens accidentally on a remote server? It's an easy fix too, depending on the library you're using.

The problem here isn't the ability to drag and drop items from local to remote and vice-versa, the problem is if you move the mouse just a few pixels in any direction, as you're single-clicking a directory, it moves it. At the very least the implementation of the Drag-n-drop here is very poorly implemented.

Also, The very reason to make this change is that I DO seem to find the same problem in every other SFTP application, and it would make Filezilla a BETTER SAFER PRODUCT than all the others. Well it is a good product. Remember, for every user that complains, there are many you never hear from at all. Seriously, people have obviously been complaining about this for YEARS !!!???!!! Fine tune the drag-n-drop behaviour, so it waits for you to drag the items at least the number of pixels vertically to equal a row, or give your CUSTOMERS the ability to turn it off completely, and I assume everyone's just talking about just turning it off for moves within Remote treeview panel. Then a Right-click menu item to move... the item to another folder would still allow the item to be moved remotely and Safely for Petes Sake.

SHEESH!!!

PLEASE, PLEASE.... [praying hands] [facepalm] ...

Last edited 6 years ago by David Caldwell (previous) (diff)

comment:86 by shimmy, 6 years ago

Mac user here that just messed up a site cause crazy sensitive drag and drop. Please add feature.

comment:87 by shimmy, 6 years ago

Adding <Setting name="Drag and Drop disabled">1</Setting> to a filezilla.xml file had no effect on High Sierra Mac

comment:88 by clepsydrae, 6 years ago

@shimmy -- Don't add the setting, search for and change the setting that is already present.

@everybody -- please be respectful in comments here. I share your passion for changes in how Filezilla handles this, but yelling at developers of free software is not only inappropriate, it works against your interests.

comment:89 by shimmy, 6 years ago

Hi, like the other person said in the Mac version the setting is not there at all. I had to add it and it still didn't work

Last edited 6 years ago by shimmy (previous) (diff)

in reply to:  89 comment:90 by clepsydrae, 6 years ago

Which other person's comment are you referring to? I didn't see that...

When you added that line, I assume you added it within the proper XML <Settings> element, and not just at the end of the file, right?

comment:91 by shimmy, 6 years ago

yes I added with the proper XML <Settings> element. It did not work.

comment:92 by Mark van Leeuwen, 6 years ago

This issue burnt me badly last night.

Apparently I inadvertently moved a folder on a customer's server. I suspect Filezilla (on Ubuntu 18.04) interpreted my touchpad action to open a folder as a move. We only became aware of what happened after all hell broke loose with jobs failing overnight.

What makes the issue particularly bad is that there is no obvious feedback from Filezilla to indicate that the folder has been moved. The folder tree on the remote server is not automatically updated when the move has taken place. The folder tree needs to be refreshed for the folder move to become apparent.

I have now disabled drag and drop using the XML setting and confirmed that it is disabled.

But I am concerned that this issue will continue to affect Filezilla users. Future users will only turn to the XML setting option when they have been burnt as I was - by then the damage has been done.

A better solution is needed to prevent the issue happening in the first place. I think that either remote drag and drop should be disabled or it should require confirmation. I do not care that this behaviour would make remote drag and drop different to local drag and drop. It is more important to ensure users cannot unknowingly make changes to folders and files.

comment:93 by tedych, 6 years ago

I actually left the option turned On, at its default.
I cannot live without drag'n'drop in the filelist areas to transfer items. I just pay very great attention when clicking in the tree. For now.
That's why for me the two viable solutions are:

  1. Confirmations on drag/drop (only).
  2. Option to disable drag/drop in the tree only.

Maybe I shouldn't mention that (unfortunately) but I've tried many other FTP clients in the search of a better one. There are some but Overall FZ still seems the best for now.

comment:94 by David Caldwell, 6 years ago

Please Disable Drag-n-Drop within the Remote Tree View, and add a Right-click option to Move... where you can browse to the location you want to move it to.

No more accidental moves, and if someone needs to move it's in the SAFER method.

comment:95 by Tom, 5 years ago

Please, for the love of God, implement this feature that was requested in November 2004 (TWO-THOUSAND-AND-FOUR). It is insanely easy to accidentally move files through the UI and you don't always realize that you made a change ... and it is impossible to undo. Seriously, WTF? It shouldn't take FOURTEEN years to implement a basic feature that will make FileZilla a SAFER tool for everyone.

comment:96 by tedych, 5 years ago

Tom, this wouldn't be implemented. Filezilla client has no viable, sane and free alternative for Windows and the author knows it. This is normal behavior when you don't have some competition. Not blaming the author at all. Again, this is normal. No matter 14 or 44 years have passed since the feature had been requested.

The only solution at the moment is to disable it for both tree and list using the tweak. I can't live without ability to copy items in the list so for now I didn't disable it. But I find myself using other tools more and more, unfortunately.
Sometimes a small but very important lack can cost you losing many users. At the same time I realize that this feature is not something you can find in most other (paid) alternatives even.

comment:97 by shimmy, 5 years ago

Attention developer, I will gladly pay to stop ruining my site. If you would like to add this feature to a paid version on mac I would gladly pay to never ruin my site again.

comment:98 by premtpk, 5 years ago

Please try this method. Update your file config filezilla/filezilla.xml - Add <Setting name="Drag and Drop disabled">1</Setting> and make the file readonly. If you dont make your file readonly, then while closing the filezilla it will revert the changes.

It is working fine in mac os. If you need to update the settings, then make it writable and change the setings in filezilla. Close the app and add <Setting name="Drag and Drop disabled">1</Setting> this again.

comment:99 by shimmy, 5 years ago

Does not work

in reply to:  98 comment:100 by Kyle Armstrong, 5 years ago

Replying to premtpk:

Please try this method. Update your file config filezilla/filezilla.xml - Add <Setting name="Drag and Drop disabled">1</Setting> and make the file readonly. If you dont make your file readonly, then while closing the filezilla it will revert the changes.

It is working fine in mac os. If you need to update the settings, then make it writable and change the setings in filezilla. Close the app and add <Setting name="Drag and Drop disabled">1</Setting> this again.

This solution worked for me in Windows 10, but when set to read-only, the XML write on close causes a "failed to write to xml" error prompt to display upon exiting the application.

Every organization I have been a part of that uses FileZilla has wished for this type of feature to be available. Completely disabling drag and drop altogether isn't ideal, but it's definitely preferred to the alternative of constantly misplacing files when many hands are in the pot. If this is truly getting implementation support at all, a more permanent solution than locking out the xml file as read-only should be available. Preferably as an option in the settings to persist it through sessions.

comment:101 by jackklau, 4 years ago

"

Please try this method. Update your file config filezilla/filezilla.xml - Add <Setting name="Drag and Drop disabled">1</Setting> and make the file readonly. If you dont make your file readonly, then while closing the filezilla it will revert the changes.

It is working fine in mac os. If you need to update the settings, then make it writable and change the setings in filezilla. Close the app and add <Setting name="Drag and Drop disabled">1</Setting> this again."

above workaround doesn't work for me on windows 10 system even make the file readonly, has anything else need I to modify in my system?

Last edited 4 years ago by jackklau (previous) (diff)

comment:102 by jackklau, 4 years ago

Indeed accidently move a whole folder is a disaster for us and need an option to reminder us
Hope it will be implement
&swift prosecution is needed

Last edited 4 years ago by jackklau (previous) (diff)

comment:103 by tginsandiego, 4 years ago

Longtime Filezilla user, and just had the program move a local directory, because I was 10 pixels off of the scrollbar when I dragged my mouse. Luckily I noticed it and was able to reverse it manually, since there is no UNDO option.

I see that over a 100 users, over more than a decade, have asked for a simple change to require a confirmation dialog before executing file and folder manipulation commands.

Reading the developer pushback on this is astounding. Yes, this isn't glamorous or sexy or fun. Modifying preferences and adding a popup is dull work compared to exciting new features. But the ego and arrogance displayed is truly dismaying. You come off sounding like petulant children instead of rational software developers working on a world-class tool, responding to user feedback.

Just fucking do it. Geez. Here, I'll write the code for you

if (doing_any_file_manipulation)
{

if (preferences.file_manipulations_require_confirmation == YES)
then {

require_user_to_confirm(file_manipulation);
return;

}

do(file_manipulation);

}

Feel free to put it in the PRO version -- I (and the rest of the folks) would gladly pay for the safety net.

(I am now being entirely sincere, /SARCASM=OFF)
Filezilla is AMAZINGLY useful. Everyone connected with it's development should be very proud of the effort. I can't remember the last time I encountered a bug or crash, which is truly astounding for a program this complicated.

Last edited 4 years ago by tginsandiego (previous) (diff)

comment:104 by MistaP, 4 years ago

PLEASE PLEASE IMPLEMENT THIS.

I have just taken over 100K voice users offline because of this issue. A simple accidental brush over my mac mouse resulted in the whole of the /etc directory being moved to /root/etc. As you can imagine the OS wasn't too pleased !! A simple preferences screen with radio buttons 'confirm remote actions'. Leave default off .. Then trust me when you discover this issue you will be thankful for this feature. Filezilla is a great application but unfortunately, In the meantime, I'm looking for another FTP application as I cannot risk doing that again !!
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MAC YOU WON'T APPRECIATE HOW MUCH OF A PROBLEM THIS IS.

comment:105 by birgersp, 3 years ago

+1 on this issue. The drag-and-drop functionality should be optional (I need to turn it off).

Every time I've used the drag-and-drop has been by accident. It is especially dangerous when using a touchpad...

comment:106 by Alan Smith, 2 years ago

The suggestion:
"Add <Setting name="Drag and Drop disabled">1</Setting>"
does not fix the issue, it simply disables this otherwise essential feature.

This is a desperately needed modification,

comment:107 by AleWin32, 9 months ago

Yesterday i made a catastrophe on a web server in production due to this problem.

I accidentally move a folder without realising what happened so all the images gave 404 visiting the website.

The problem was i use an Apple Magical Mouse 2 that is specially sensitive in FileZilla and it's very easy to make a drag and drop operation accidentally instead of just clicking a folder.

This is a known issue, some others users reported this too using this mouse:
https://forum.filezilla-project.org/viewtopic.php?t=42774

Please, add a confirmation window ("Are you sure you want to move the folder ... to ...?) for moving files and folders to avoid this important problem with all sensitive mousses. Or even better, if you don't want to reply to this question every time, a new configurable option like a checkmark with "Ask confirmation when moving files and folders".

Last edited 9 months ago by AleWin32 (previous) (diff)

comment:108 by Arnaud Chéritat, 4 months ago

Slight jitter in the hand when double clicking remote folder name to open it resulted in drag and drop action instead. Lost index.php and 30mns of work. Could have been much worse if it had been a nearby folder. But I'm puzzled why local to remote actions ask for confirmation but not remote to remote.

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